Chainsaw device
The MS 180 Stihl chainsaw is intended for use at home, not by professionals, but by all interested users. Therefore, it includes such characteristics as low weight, imperceptible vibration and smooth sawing.
A Stihl two-stroke carburetor engine is installed. The gas tank for chain lube oil and the fuel tank are made translucent. Inspection windows were made in the front and rear of the housing specifically to monitor the oil and fuel levels.
The fuel used is high-octane, mixed with a special two-stroke oil for Stihl chainsaws in red color. The saw bar is automatically lubricated. Special oil is used for lubrication.
Much attention is paid to the safety of the Stihl chain saw. There is a hand guard at the front, which also operates the inertia brake. During jerks and impacts, the brake is activated and abruptly stops the movement of the cutting parts of the tool, and prevents injury. The saw handles are mounted on special rubber cushions and shock absorbers. So that engine vibration is not transmitted to your hands.
In operation, the Stihl chainsaw is convenient with new introduced functions that ensure efficient, convenient and safe use of the model.
The first and main thing is to change the method of tensioning the chain. This system is controlled through the drive sprocket cover. The tension is done in semi-automatic mode. You need to loosen the nuts securing the cover, fold back the wing hook grip and unscrew the nut, turn the tension sprocket to the right until it stops, then screw the nut all the way in by hand and close the grip. Stretching is done very quickly and efficiently.
The following feature ensures user safety during startup. Anyone who uses a chainsaw knows that if you start it incorrectly and do not pull the starter confidently, you can get a strong blow and injure your hand. For this purpose, the manufacturer installed the ElastoStart device. The work of the device is reduced to reducing the load and smoothing out jerks.
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Chainsaw Shtil 180 Malfunctions and Repairs
The Shtil MS 180 chainsaw is in operation. There is a problem in the future. Before preserving it for winter, on the advice of the mechanics, I dropped 4 drops of motor oil (calm) into the spark plug hole. screwed the candle. At the moment I was getting ready to go to the dacha and decided to take a look at the saw. I pulled the starter, but it wouldn’t turn! I turned the spark plug out, it was covered in oil, wiped it and put it back. the same. I turned it out, cranked the starter without a spark plug - everything turned completely. I screwed it back in and the starter doesn't turn. Which one do you like best?
Rinse the chainsaw with clean, undiluted gasoline, pour it directly through the spark plug hole and slowly crank the starter. Later, drain the fuel and use the new one. After all these manipulations, dry the saw and spark plug and only then try to start it. Once you have learned how to can, then learn how to re-can, and not just pull and go.
Tell me, why might the starter stick? The Stihl 180 chain saw is brand new.
If you don't understand, you won't recognize it. Maybe the starter cord is poorly laid out, or maybe the tide is interfering somewhere. Shtilev starters are quite reliable and durable. There are no structural diseases observed, mainly either dirt or heavy use. If your chainsaw is brand new, take it to a service center and they will repair it under warranty.
I saw one feature of my own Stihl MS 180 chainsaw: when the gas in the tank runs out, the idle speed increases and the chain begins to spin even when the trigger is released. When you press the gas, the chainsaw stalls. This continues for a couple of 10 seconds, then the chainsaw stops. In motor vehicles, I have not observed such a phenomenon, so that when there is a shortage of fuel in the carburetor, the engine speed increases. Why is this happening?
This is a common occurrence with two-stroke engines. When the supply of gasoline to the carburetor is reduced, the consistency becomes leaner. As a natural result. increased speed, worse acceleration. This is accompanied by short-term overheating of the CPG. It won’t damage the engine, but it won’t add health. Avoid running out of fuel completely from the tank.
I have a Stihl MS180 chainsaw, which is used during the summer season to prepare firewood. In recent years, the reaction of the chain began to disappear when pressing the gas; the chain does not rotate at all, or in jerks. sawing is unrealistic. What's your favorite way to break down?
For a completely new chain and sprocket, the tension can be exactly according to the instructions. so that the lower branch does not sag. and the upper one could be removed with fingers at the height of the leading link. Then the chain will move quite freely along the tire. Unfortunately, the gradual wear of the sprocket teeth reduces its pitch. And the gradual stretching of the chain increases its pitch. and the time comes when the steps of the same sprocket and chain cease to coincide to such an extent that the recommended tension already causes difficulty in moving the chain. So we recommend reducing the tension a little. Right before a certain sag or upper branch appears. When, for the same reason, it is recommended to use a pair on one sprocket, which saves three chains. So the wear is moderate; there will be no accelerated wear of the new chain on an old, partly worn out sprocket.
The Shtil 180 chainsaw swells after starting when you press the gas, and as soon as you start sawing it stalls. But if you torture it with gas for 30-40 seconds, it starts working normally. I used up 3 liters of gasoline, the filters are clean, the oil is from the dealer.
If this started not long ago, then most likely something got into the carburetor with bad fuel. Needs to be cleaned.
I would like to purchase this unit. Where should you pay attention during the inspection?
We are not talking about the engine itself, since it is better to diagnose it in a service center, look for the rest and get a lot of information. Significant mileage will be indicated by: A loose latch of the top cover. (Should lock tightly and not even turn due to vibration). A brand new sprocket on a battered chainsaw. When the cover is removed, the motor moves relative to the housing. Sheared chain catcher and chain damage on the sprocket cover. Of course, take a close look at the carburetor on the left side along the way. the place where the wire rod enters the choke shaft arm. On a chain saw that has not worked much, it will be smooth and oblong. The longer the saw has worked, the more difficult it will be to make this hole. When wiped through. You should never take a saw that has even a slight free play on the right end of the crankshaft relative to the engine. This is a sign of an imminent overhaul.
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How many seconds should the Shtil ms 180 chainsaw engine run at idle before turning it off?
Let it run for about 20-30 seconds and then turn it off. More than simple. there is no point.
The idle speed started to disappear, at first I didn’t understand what was wrong, but then I remembered that I needed to increase the idle speed a lot, I added it on a hot engine, it seemed to work. A week later I arrive at the dacha and need to cut a couple of logs, I start the saw and at first the chain spins on a cool engine, then our client remains to pass, after standing for about 10 minutes I start it up, our client remains fine only on a cool engine. This is fine?
If the chain turns, the speed is too high. It should be understood that a normally adjusted and serviceable engine is likely to have a slightly higher idle speed immediately after starting before warming up. And he can be promoted decently. before the chain rotates. As the engine warms up, the idle speed gradually drops. Therefore, it is recommended to adjust the idle speed only when the engine is warm.
Is it possible to install a clutch drum with a removable ring on a Stihl MS 180 chainsaw (upgrading the drum is allowed), for example from the 250th.
Can. Everything fits perfectly. Just don’t go over to 325. It’s hard on the engine. However, there are a couple of aspects to keep in mind. On such a set (with a removable one), a sprocket that is a little larger in diameter by one tooth is not easy. The speed of the chain will increase in a ratio of 6:7, and accordingly, the load on the engine will increase. But practice has shown that this is not critical with normally sharpened chains. And 2nd. A completely new chain of 50 links fits onto such a sprocket with a certain complexity. (In general, 51 links are recommended; alas, they happen occasionally). First you will have to suffer to get it to fit on the sprocket and tire. And then, when it stretches a little, everything will be fine to dress.
I bought a Shtil 180 chainsaw. I filled it with oil and benzyl. Started it up and let it run without load at idle. I burned through a tank of gas and pressed the gas a little at times. For some reason, the oil for lubricating the chain did not arrive, the oil hole remained dry. Or will it start to flow when the speed is higher and the chain takes longer to spin?
With the 180th calm, oil is supplied to the chain when the drive sprocket rotates (in short, when the chain rotates), but it is not recommended to run it in at idle speed.
On the MS 180 chainsaw, after using one book of a tank of fuel, I had more than half a tank of oil left. The groove of the tire and the base of the chain, which is in the groove, are in oil. But when checking, for some reason the oil does not spray from the chain and the cutting teeth, in my opinion, remain dry when sawing. A woody coating appears on the top of the cutting tooth. The oil comes in, but unfortunately it comes out in the missing volume. Nothing could have clogged it, the chainsaw was brand new, the hole was unstained. Is it a manufacturer's defect or will it remain so?
I won’t argue about chain oil consumption in calm conditions, but isn’t 2-3 tanks of fuel per tank of oil too much? I have less than a quarter tank of oil left after using up a tank of gas.
When I start the tool with the chain brake turned off, it turns on itself just when I pull the starter handle. Is this normal?
This model is quite unique in its launch, there is no decompressor and/or elastostart that compensate for recoil, but despite the small size of the piston, it is still quite decent. For this reason, you need to start the saw confidently, smoothly, by engaging the starter sharply and moderately pulling the starting cord; if at some point you loosen your grip or slow down the pulling speed, the recoil will remind you of a nasty feeling.
What is the difference between the Stihl MS 180 chain saw and the 30cm bar? and with a 35 cm tire? That is, the distance from the stopper to the tip of the tire?
So this value changes during use. The more the chain is stretched, the more simple this distance is. The longer the bar, the more you will like the difference in cutting lengths between a new chain and a stretched chain. The difference in the length of the cut between a completely new and stretched chain will be somewhere around 1 cm. The bar does not lengthen, but simply its tip moves further from the saw body, otherwise the chain will not be tensioned. The limit for the growth of the cutting length is determined at this time by the length of the tensioner screw and in which company of this screw the tensioner block was located for installing the new chain. The further it was from the drive sprocket, the faster, other things being equal, the chain will become unusable due to excess stretching. I'm afraid that it's unlikely to be possible to purchase a tire 1 cm longer than the standard one. Typical tire lengths for household models. 12, 14, 16 and 18 for 3/8 x 1.3 mm chains and 13, 15 and 18 for 0.325 x 1.3 mm chains.
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How can you keep the brake off when starting, or is the brake always on?
This makes it more convenient and safer for you. There are three main launch options. at idle, at half throttle, at full throttle. At first, the chain after starting is motionless, otherwise it may twitch a little. In the 2nd and 3rd cases. the chain moves. Setting the brake to the working position in the first start-up option is a waste of time. It is very unlikely that the idle speed would suddenly and without circumstances increase so much that the chain would start moving. In the 2nd and 3rd cases, when starting with the brake activated, it is necessary to immediately turn off the brake after starting, so as not to burn the clutch. When starting with the brake turned off, after starting, you need to press and release the gas lever so that the saw engine goes into idle mode (in the 3rd case, at the time of start-up, this is a common rumor that the lever is already pressed, you just need to release it).
CHAINSAW STIHL MS 180 does not start well, - carburetor repair/ repair and carb tuning
It was necessary to work, the saw started up quickly, although it stood idle for 5 months, after cutting, all that remains for our client is that he needs to burn one tank of fuel, which remains for our client to do normally. Alas, I arrive a week later, there is a puddle of oil under it, which previously did not exist. Which one do you like best?
Never been on these chainsaws. Usually the oil hose breaks off from its attachment to the pump if you throw cool oil in the tank and put the saw in a warm place. The breather only works inward, the pump does not allow air to pass through, so there is nowhere for the excess pressure to go, and it pushes out the hose.
I bought a Shtil MS 180 C-BE chainsaw. Started it according to the instructions. What remains for our client to do works fine, but it takes a long time and a lot of steps. I tried to start it without the brake in position I, and it also started the first time. Tell me, is it possible to do this, what are the risks?
It is better to start without a brake, the clutch will burn out quickly. Warm, it generally just starts.
Now my tool won't start. I unscrewed the spark plug and it was wet. I put it on the gas burner and tried it again later. It won't start at all. I pulled out the candle 5 times, and the rest of the time it was wet. What to do?
Try not to dry the candle. I drenched them. I usually start it like this: I unscrew the spark plug and turn off the ignition. 10. 15 jerks with the starter (if it is very flooded, put the muffler down and tug). Later I blow on the spark plug to knock off excess fuel and screw it in. Alas, I start later not from the lowest position, but from the second from the bottom (the air damper is open and the starting gas is applied). Usually a jerk from the third. on the fourth it starts. It smokes a little and that’s it, it works. And from time to time I’m too lazy to turn the spark plug out, so I give full gas with my foot (on the ground) and pull until it starts. In most cases it will work. If, after blowing and drying the spark plugs, you start them again from the bottom position, you will flood them again. Well, there’s too much fuel, we’ll close the damper additionally.
The STIHL MS 180 chainsaw does not start easily. carburetor repair. Repair and carb tuning
During its operation, the stihl ms 180 c chainsaw did not hold idle and stalled. It didn't start easily, but it stalled again at idle. After which it doesn't want to start. Tomorrow, after unsuccessful attempts to start it, I removed and washed the air filter. It didn’t help, I had to remove the candle. It turned out to be dry, although there were plenty of attempts to start it. I cleaned the breather with a needle (it was not clogged). I changed the fuel filter (although the old one didn’t look dirty). I cleaned the carburetor and installed a new spark plug just in case. The saw won't start! I turned the spark plug out again. dry. What to do?
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Remove the muffler. Look at the piston, if there are longitudinal stripes then it needs to be replaced.
I have been using the Shtil 180 chainsaw for 6 years, I took the newest one. I’m happy with the saw, apart from the oil, filters and bearing lubrication, I haven’t touched anything, I’ve done the work decently over the years. Today I had to cut a lot, I worked for three days. For a few days the saw began to trim, but it seems like it's running fine. On the 3rd day the speed dropped by approximately 4/3. It idles, may stall, and does not start the first time. Yesterday I installed it and just didn’t touch it. What will you like?
I'd look at the muffler. If it has not been cleaned once in 6 years, it becomes clogged and the exhaust gases have nowhere to go. Usually, with such symptoms, either the air filter is clogged or the muffler is clogged.
Not long ago I learned that it is better to periodically turn the tire on a chainsaw. for even wear. Tell me, is this so, is it worth doing?
Spinning the tire is not only better. certainly. How often? depends on the amount of work. Not only twist, but also grind off the burrs.
What is the difference between the drive and chain sprockets of the Stihl 180 chainsaw?
There is no difference between the drive sprocket and the sprocket; these are different names for the same part.
I bought this chainsaw, I really liked it, alas, I want to ask you if my saw can cut thick wood?
Standard tire length. 35 cm, you need to cut the log. 70 cm in diameter, if logs of this diameter predominate, then you need a chainsaw of greater power. The tool will, of course, cope with the task at hand, will cut slowly and correctly, our client is left with logs of huge diameter, but do not forget that by giving huge loads to a device not intended for this, you (most likely) reduce the service life of the chainsaw, in other words, speed up its repair.
Please tell me, is it possible to use a 45 cm bar on a Stihl 180 chain saw?
The chainsaw can accommodate a bar with a maximum length of 40 cm.
Where is the breather located in the Shtil ms 180 chainsaw?
The ventilation accounting system valve (breather) is located on top of the gas tank and oil tank, it is not visible visually, because there our client remains covered by the starter housing.
The gas button is stuck horizontally. What to do?
Mainly, the lever-traction mechanism is faulty; when the unit is turned over, one of the levers, or rods, falls down.
Why is oil not supplied to lubricate the chainsaw bar? What's the problem?
The oil filter is clogged. The channel in the chainsaw body is clogged. The tire channel and groove are clogged. The oil pump drive (worm) is faulty. Oil pump is faulty. The oil tank has run out of oil.
What can you say about overheating of the Shtil 180 chainsaw motor?
I will try to explain about overheating of a working chain saw. I understand a working chainsaw this way: the carburetor is correctly adjusted (it’s enough to set the idle speed to normal, by ear or on the tachometer 2800), bearings, seals, filters, spark plug. in order. The cooling system is also desirable to be in order, and savings happen, you can’t see what color the starter cover is, the grille is clogged, there’s practically no air flowing through. If a working chain saw runs on a regular fuel mixture (high-quality gasoline with a fairly high octane number, good two-stroke oil and its correct proportion). it is then that there is virtually no possibility of overheating (sharp chain, of course). The cause of overheating is directly related to the fuel; you can overheat a new saw in 5 minutes, and it is still working properly. Cause of overheating. not work or its duration, but flammable oil. In other words, both this and that. And with moderate home use, subject to all of the above, this instrument will never overheat.
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Why does the cylinder heat up and when it heats up the saw stalls?
There is a problem in the ignition module, maybe there is no compression (suitable).
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Specifications
If we compare all Stihl saws produced, this model is at the top of the list, if the list goes in ascending order and is judged by power and price. Although the characteristics are weak, the tool is ideal for the average user.
And so the characteristics: 1. Engine - one cylinder, two-stroke. 2. The working volume of the cylinder is 30.8 cm cubed. 3. The inner diameter of the cylinder is 38 mm. 4. Piston stroke – 28 mm. 5. Power – 1.5 kW = 2 hp. 6. Ignition – electronic. 7. Spark plug with protection against interference - Bosch WSR 6F, or NGK BPMR 7 A. 8. The gap between the spark plug electrodes is 0.5 mm. 9. Magnetic carburetor - works in any position. 10. Fuel tank - volume 0.25 liters. 11. Fuel mixture - gasoline plus oil ratio 1:50. 12. Oil tank – volume 0.145 liters. 13. Tire lubrication - oil pump driven from the crankshaft. 14. Tire length – 30 or 35 cm.
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Modifications
In addition to the basic modification of the MS-180, there are improved models:
- Chainsaw Stihl MS-180 C-BE 14.
- Chainsaw Stihl MS-180 16 Picco.
Let's consider each modification separately.
Chainsaw Stihl MS-180 C-BE 14
This “Calm” chainsaw is more advanced by the manufacturer, its weight is 4.2 kg. The two-stroke power plant runs on a fuel mixture of gasoline and motor oil and has a capacity of 2 liters. With. Air-cooled, the ErgoStart system makes it easy to start the engine by pulling the inertia starter handle. The QuickStop system instantly stops chain movement when you press the front stop.
Constant fuel consumption and the cleanest exhaust possible are ensured by a built-in compensator. The tire is small - 14 inches, with the following parameters: 1.3 mm, 3/8″, 50 links. The tire is equipped with a Picco Duro chain of our own making, which dulls four times slower and is extremely durable and reliable.
Tips for using a Stihl saw
We thought about the purchase and decided to take it, we advise you to immediately buy two spare chains, oil for preparing fuel and lubricant. It is imperative to give the saw a run-in to grind in the parts. The first refueling should be done almost at idle, only occasionally increasing the speed to warm up. The next two refuelings gradually increase the load. Then you can work at full load, but constantly monitor the motor.
Tell me why we need two more chains. The fact is that the fastest wear occurs at the cutting part of the tool. Therefore, during operation it is necessary to constantly change it, even if the chain is sharp and cuts wood well. You need to make sure that all three chains are equally stretched and run in to the tire and sprockets. This way you will be able to use the saw for a long time without any problems.
Purchase a hand-held tooth sharpening tool. It is quite difficult to sharpen teeth correctly and efficiently by hand. Using only a sharp tool, you do not get tired, the saw does not heat up, and fuel consumption is minimal. For this reason, you need to approach sharpening responsibly and have a good understanding of this process.
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Maintenance
Maintenance work on the chain saw is carried out regularly at certain intervals. Let's look at the basic necessary work that needs to be done during the sawing process.
1. Filling with fuel - fuel is poured outdoors, pay special attention to tightening the fuel tank cap completely.
2. Before starting, check the brake, properly tension the chain, and tighten the sprocket cover nuts until tight.
3. After starting, check the operation of the tire lubrication pump, bring the saw unit to a level surface and rev up the engine. On a flat surface, a trace of oil will be visible from rotation.
4. When replacing the chain, be sure to clean the groove at the guide bar and the oil passage hole for lubrication from sawdust.
5. Timely replacement of fuel and air filters.
6. Clean the spark plug from carbon deposits; if the contacts are badly burned, replace them with a new one.
7. Cleaning the grid with holes near the starter from debris. Air passes through the holes to cool the cylinder.
8. Regularly lubricate the clutch drum bearing - you can use a few drops of oil, which is used to dilute gasoline.
9. Once you have finished your work, be sure to drain the remaining gasoline in the fuel tank.
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Minor repairs
The quality of the parts and assembly of the MS 180 Stihl chainsaw is excellent, but there is no perpetual motion machine and repairs are inevitable. Let's look at simple faults and how to easily fix them.
1. The engine has lost power - you need to remove the muffler and clean the exhaust passage holes, and scrape off carbon deposits from the cylinder exhaust window.
2. The engine began to run intermittently and suddenly stalls and will no longer start - replace the spark plug.
3. Broken starter cord - the cover is removed with a special key, and the cord is simply replaced with a new one. Clean the inside of the cover - this will improve engine cooling.
4. The chainsaw stalls at idle - wash or replace the air filter and adjust the carburetor. This model has a single screw in the carburetor and it regulates the idle speed of the engine.
5. We bought a new chain, and after several cuts of wood the chain breaks - replace the drive sprocket. It would be ideal if you install a clutch drum with a removable sprocket and the chains will no longer fly off or break.
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DIY saw repair
With the advent of the lightweight and convenient Shtil MS 180 chainsaw in the household, it will completely replace the two-handed, bow and even hacksaw. Over time, chains become dull, sprockets wear out, and the oil supply system is damaged. You can fix some problems yourself. Others require repairs at special service centers.
You can check whether there is lubricant in the reservoir and whether it is reaching the chain using a clean sheet of paper. Point the tire at a sheet of paper; a characteristic mark in the form of an oil streak should remain on it.
You can repair the saw yourself only after understanding the structure of the units and the sequence of operations for removing and restoring or replacing the unit. The operating instructions for the Shtil 180 chainsaw will become a reliable assistant. It is there that you can find installation techniques and the sequence of repair operations:
On this topic:
Choosing a non-professional chainsaw model for gardening
Chainsaw from a Chinese manufacturer for work in the countryside
Cordless chainsaw - characteristics, models
Why and how to adjust a chainsaw carburetor
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- oil supply systems;
- bringing the carburetor into working condition;
- repair or replacement of the oil pump.
In addition, a home craftsman can shorten a stretched chain and sharpen it.
If the saw chain remains dry during operation or oil leaks, it means that the malfunction and repair of the lubrication system of the Shtil 180 chainsaw are required. At the same time, the oil lines and the tightness of the connection with the fittings are inspected. The oil supply filter must be cleaned. If the hoses have slight mechanical damage, the tightness can be restored using sealant.
The carburetor makes itself felt by making it difficult to start the saw; a running tool does not pick up speed and stalls when throttled. The reason may be wear on the cuff on the piston, as a result, air is sucked in during discharge. To repair the carburetor, remove the carburetor and get to the cuff on the accelerator, disassembling the unit in the sequence:
- remove the cover with the membrane by unscrewing the screw;
- remove the retaining ring;
- disconnect the air damper, remove the throttle;
- pull out the accelerator with the spring;
- replace the tiny piston with collar and reassemble the carburetor in reverse order.
Problems may be related to the ignition system. After checking the performance of the spark plugs and cleaning the carbon deposits, the carburetor and feed system are adjusted and the injections are cleaned. The carburetor is a complex unit and the operation of the chassis depends on its settings. If you lack confidence and skill, it is better to use the services of a specialist. Often, working on low-quality gasoline or with non-recommended oil is the root cause of all problems.
To help the master, there is information on the resources on how to repair the Shtil 180 chainsaw with your own hands, for example, the video will show the disassembly sequence.
You can see about lubrication system diagnostics here:
Reviews
I read the endless string of reviews, and it keeps growing and growing. Users love the MS 180 Stihl chainsaw. They call it a reliable assistant in construction. They compare them with other chainsaw manufacturers and still prefer this model. Even professionals, although they say that it is weak, respect it for its unpretentiousness, reliability and, most importantly, light weight. Trouble-free engine starting at any time of the year, no matter what the weather. The engine runs stable in any position, even upside down.
Negative reviews also occur. It stops starting in the heat, but it’s just not knowing what not to do in such weather. This happens with any chainsaw. But we’ll talk about this separately. Many people do not like the power for felling trees and choose semi-professional models. A weak cutting tool quickly becomes dull and often breaks.